Re: new pvst beta (updated 29-Mar-2019)
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:08 am
Thank you Polac !
mridlen wrote:
Expected behavior would be to load up with a dummy channel selected or crash the plugin or something instead of the whole song. Any way to make that happen?
RJ1 wrote:viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7&start=300#p11200
Hello everybody, i would like to point to my message from a while ago ,
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7&start=300#p11200
does that issue have ever been fixed (by Oskari) ?
RJ
I did not notice this as a bug yet. But a tag based sytem I miss sometimes. At least since I gave up the fight against the vst installers resulting in a distributed installation pattern.RJ1 wrote:They are indexed, but appear in one single column only.
It's not a latency issue. It only crashes when I don't have enough ASIO input/output channels on the attached sound card. So let me try again to explain it:temporalsounds wrote:mridlen wrote:
Expected behavior would be to load up with a dummy channel selected or crash the plugin or something instead of the whole song. Any way to make that happen?
Have you tried to change ASIO latency , I have thousands crashes with my E-MU ASIO drivers sometimes.(Win 7 64bit)
I didn´t try latest Polac VST yet. I use b31 and everything works good.
Hehe,I asked the same question magmavander, at ´psi drum kits´topic (USERS), he advised me about this theme called ´MIRE´mridlen wrote:Side question: What theme are you using? That looks nice!
So I'm noticing this problem pop up (or rather *not* pop up, I guess) more often lately, always with 64-bit VSTs. I've turned on "prevent focus stealing" in the preferences, but it has no effect.nathansnider wrote:I installed the demo, and I'm able to open the menus (including the preset one) just fine. Can't figure out how to get it to properly load SFZ mappings, but that's a different matter. I'm on Windows 7 here, in case that makes any difference.rohka wrote:The menus in TAL Sampler's GUI are unusable. E.g. clicking on the preset name should bring up a menu but the menu disappears instantly.
The menus work in other hosts so the issue would seem specific to Polac loader, but can someone else test to make sure it's not just me? The demo version of TAL Sampler is available at https://tal-software.com/products/tal-sampler
I have had similar menu problems using certain other VSTs in Buzz though, particularly T-Racks from IK Multimedia. Pretty much any selection popup (like, say, clicking on the preset name to pick a preset, or selecting modulation targets in the reverbs) in those plugins does not work at all.
It might be a similar problem in both cases, where a dev has gotten too tricky with a custom menu popup, and PVST doesn't render it as intended. I notice that the TAL menu just sort of floats there; you can open it, then drag the window for the VST around and the menu stays in the same place. It doesn't close at all until you click somewhere in the TAL Sample window, so it's clearly some kind of non-standard UI element.
The menus of these 64-bit vst plugins actually just do not pop up in the 32-bit version of Buzz -nathansnider wrote: So I'm noticing this problem pop up (or rather *not* pop up, I guess) more often lately, always with 64-bit VSTs. I've turned on "prevent focus stealing" in the preferences, but it has no effect.
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Ah, interesting. Do any 32-bit plugins have similar issues in 64-bit Buzz, or does the problem just flow one way?thOke wrote:The menus of these 64-bit vst plugins actually just do not pop up in the 32-bit version of Buzz -nathansnider wrote: So I'm noticing this problem pop up (or rather *not* pop up, I guess) more often lately, always with 64-bit VSTs. I've turned on "prevent focus stealing" in the preferences, but it has no effect.
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in the 64-bit version of Buzz they do. So it probably is a bridging problem.
Yes, the problem seems to be the same with 32-bit plugins in the 64-bit version of Buzz.nathansnider wrote: Ah, interesting. Do any 32-bit plugins have similar issues in 64-bit Buzz, or does the problem just flow one way?
Hopefully there's some simple fix. In the affected plugins, menus will often flicker on briefly before disappearing, so it looks like they're being produced, but maybe the click is just cascading through to the background and immediately closing them.
nathansnider wrote:So I'm noticing this problem pop up (or rather *not* pop up, I guess) more often lately, always with 64-bit VSTs. I've turned on "prevent focus stealing" in the preferences, but it has no effect.nathansnider wrote:I installed the demo, and I'm able to open the menus (including the preset one) just fine. Can't figure out how to get it to properly load SFZ mappings, but that's a different matter. I'm on Windows 7 here, in case that makes any difference.rohka wrote:The menus in TAL Sampler's GUI are unusable. E.g. clicking on the preset name should bring up a menu but the menu disappears instantly.
The menus work in other hosts so the issue would seem specific to Polac loader, but can someone else test to make sure it's not just me? The demo version of TAL Sampler is available at https://tal-software.com/products/tal-sampler
I have had similar menu problems using certain other VSTs in Buzz though, particularly T-Racks from IK Multimedia. Pretty much any selection popup (like, say, clicking on the preset name to pick a preset, or selecting modulation targets in the reverbs) in those plugins does not work at all.
It might be a similar problem in both cases, where a dev has gotten too tricky with a custom menu popup, and PVST doesn't render it as intended. I notice that the TAL menu just sort of floats there; you can open it, then drag the window for the VST around and the menu stays in the same place. It doesn't close at all until you click somewhere in the TAL Sample window, so it's clearly some kind of non-standard UI element.
In a couple cases, where I've also installed the 32-bit plugins, the 32-bit versions work fine. This would explain why rohka was having the problem before but others couldn't reproduce it. I tried installing the 64-bit version of TAL Sampler just now and sure enough, the menu is broken, but it works in the 32-bit version. The T-Racks 5 plugins I mentioned earlier are 64-bit only, so nothing to test against there.
Pianoteq Pro, Devious Machines Texture, DiscoDSP Vertigo and Klanghelm MJUC are some other examples where the 32-bit VSTs work fine but the 64-bit versions won't produce any kind of menu popups. All of them use some kind of custom popup (i.e. not just a regular gray Windows UI box), so I assume that has something to do with it.
In case it helps diagnose the problem, here are some VSTs that have non-standard popup menus but still work fine in both 32- and 64-bit: Sugarbytes Aparillo, AAS Chromaphone 2, XLN RC-20 and DiscoDSP Corona (yay!).
@sfManthOke wrote:The menus of these 64-bit vst plugins actually just do not pop up in the 32-bit version of Buzz -nathansnider wrote: So I'm noticing this problem pop up (or rather *not* pop up, I guess) more often lately, always with 64-bit VSTs. I've turned on "prevent focus stealing" in the preferences, but it has no effect.
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in the 64-bit version of Buzz they do. So it probably is a bridging problem.