New Menu and themes

[mes]

the dark theme seems to be working fine here...I'm at 0.4% cpu and on a 5+ year old pc.

[IXix]

The dark theme is really cool, but still suffering a 50 % cpu consumption by just loading buzz and doing nothing.

Try turning off background images in Settings->Sequence Editor (maybe pattern editor too if that doesn't fix it).

[nikto]

The awesome Simplon III theme stopped working in the new builds, and the new 3.2 version shows the same:

'Failed to create a 'Command' from the text 'I:ToolbarVM.NewFileCommand'.

(And then another screen with errors.)

What am I missing?

[UNZ]

The awesome Simplon III theme stopped working in the new builds, and the new 3.2 version shows the same:

'Failed to create a 'Command' from the text 'I:ToolbarVM.NewFileCommand'.

(And then another screen with errors.)

What am I missing?

all older themes will probably need to be updated

[nikto]

all older themes will probably need to be updated

understood.

btw, the new dark theme looks uber cool, very impressive! Thanks, Oskari!

[strobotone]

updated:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=217&start=10

[strobotone]

however, since 1456+ only the standard theme works correctly with the wavetableeditor.
unable to zoom in/out there with other themes.
anyone else experiencing this?

[mcbpete]

Yeah, updating themes so they're compatible with the new builds is becoming an almost daily activity now (took me ages to work out how to get mine to work for versions post 1454 - I'm a little slow ...)

[IXix]

however, since 1456+ only the standard theme works correctly with the wavetableeditor.
unable to zoom in/out there with other themes.
anyone else experiencing this?

Yes.

[strobotone]

there is this lag when using the quicknewmachinewindow of the new dark theme.
compared to the default theme it is really slow.

or is it just me?

[Klangkulisse]

The dark theme is really cool, but still suffering a 50 % cpu consumption by just loading buzz and doing nothing.

Try turning off background images in Settings->Sequence Editor (maybe pattern editor too if that doesn't fix it).

Thanks for the hint.
It helped – a little
After disabling background image in sequencer and pattern view and a restart of buzz (otherwise it has no effect) it seems to lower cpu consumption about 4 % as an average, but going from 38 to 50 % by even not moving the mouse.
So it seems that the "special" graphics have an impact.

I went through the whole settings menu trying "true" and "false" for every item. Didn't change anything. So what else could I do?

And this seems to be a good opportunity to thank the buzz forums team to enable questions like this, thanks

[Klangkulisse]

there is this lag when using the quicknewmachinewindow of the new dark theme.
compared to the default theme it is really slow.

or is it just me?

Feeling a little desperate about the extraordinary cpu consumpion – but this works for me exactly like default theme

[UNZ]

there is this lag when using the quicknewmachinewindow of the new dark theme.
compared to the default theme it is really slow.

or is it just me?

Feeling a little desperate about the extraordinary cpu consumpion – but this works for me exactly like default theme

in the debug log when buzz starts, what does this line say ?

00:00 [GUI] RenderCapability::Tier == 2

what's your tier ?

[strobotone]

level 2 should give hardware accelleration without any problems.
so maybe you are running on wpf software rendering?

[Klangkulisse]

there is this lag when using the quicknewmachinewindow of the new dark theme.
compared to the default theme it is really slow.

or is it just me?

Feeling a little desperate about the extraordinary cpu consumpion – but this works for me exactly like default theme

in the debug log when buzz starts, what does this line say ?

00:00 [GUI] RenderCapability::Tier == 2

what's your tier ?

Thanks for your further investigation
My tier is:

00:00 [GUI] RenderCapability::Tier == 2


Here is the complete beginning part of the log:

00:00 [Startup] Buzz build 1458 (MI_VERSION 62)
00:00 [Startup] Load 'BuzzGUI.dll'
00:00 [Engine] Using 1 threads in multithreaded mode
00:00 [Engine] Worker thread 0 affinity set to 1
00:00 [Engine] Worker thread 0 priority 15
00:00 [GUI] RenderCapability::Tier == 2
00:00 [Startup] ReadAudioDriverList
00:00 [ADM] Failed to load driver 'asiocfg.dll'
00:00 [ADM] Loaded driver 'RenderToDisk.dll'
00:00 [ADM] Loaded driver 'wo_asio.dll'
00:00 [ADM] Loaded driver 'wo_DirectX.dll'
00:00 [ADM] Loaded driver 'wo_ds.dll'
00:01 [ADM] Loaded driver 'wo_mme.dll'
00:01 [ADM] Loaded driver 'wo_null.dll'
00:01 [ADM] Loaded driver 'wo_pasio.dll'
00:01 [ADM] Loaded driver 'wo_silent.dll'
00:01 [ADM] Failed to load driver 'wo_wasapi.dll'
00:01 [ADM] Loaded driver 'wo_waveout.dll'
00:01 [ADM] Loaded driver 'wo_wdm.dll'
00:01 [ADM] [Polac ASIO] New Instance
00:01 [ADM] [Polac ASIO] Initialize
00:01 [Engine] Audio thread priority 15
00:01 [GUI] Begin LoadTheme 'iLKke machines (extended)'
00:01 [GUI] Create toolbar
00:01 [GUI] Create parameter window
00:01 [GUI] Create machine view
00:02 [GUI] Create wavetable view
00:03 [GUI] Create sequence editor
00:03 [WPFTraceListener] BindingExpression path error: 'BindableSettings' property not found on 'object' ''PatternEditor' (Name='')'. BindingExpression:Path=BindableSettings.BackgroundImage; DataItem='PatternEditor' (Name=''); target element is 'Border' (Name=''); target property is 'NoTarget' (type 'Object')
00:03 [WPFTraceListener] BindingExpression path error: 'BindableSettings' property not found on 'object' ''PatternEditor' (Name='')'. BindingExpression:Path=BindableSettings.BackgroundImage; DataItem='PatternEditor' (Name=''); target element is 'Border' (Name=''); target property is 'NoTarget' (type 'Object')
00:03 [WPFTraceListener] BindingExpression path error: 'BindableSettings' property not found on 'object' ''PatternEditor' (Name='')'. BindingExpression:Path=BindableSettings.BackgroundImage; DataItem='PatternEditor' (Name=''); target element is 'Border' (Name=''); target property is 'NoTarget' (type 'Object')
00:04 [GUI] End LoadTheme 'iLKke machines (extended)'
00:04 [Startup] Load Machines
00:04 [MM] Read 'H:\BuzzNew\Gear\gear_defaults.xml'

etc.

[Klangkulisse]

level 2 should give hardware accelleration without any problems.
so maybe you are running on wpf software rendering?

Thanks for your further investigation too

I tried both possibilities "true" and "false" (with restating, if that makes any difference), but on both the same terrifying cpu consumption.
Is there a recommended state?

[mantratronic]

Software rendering should be off, and it really suggests that there is a problem with your video card/driver/settings if there is no change when turning it on/off. Look in windows and your video settings for hardware acceleration, there is often a slider saying how acceleration much you want for windows/wpf. If this is set to none, if would explain why buzz is going so slow. (in general you want the max hardware acceleration anyway)

[UNZ]

make sure windows is fully up to date.
get latest driver for your graphics card.

[beuze]

Build 1458


When I choose the iLKke pixelplast (new) theme (my favorite, unfortunately ), I get the message :

'Failed to create a 'Command' from the text 'I:ToolbarVM.NewFileCommand'. Line number '102' and line position '29'. The theme comes but by reopening I get the same error message and the toolbar is missing.

[strobotone]

pixelplast is not yet configured for the new wpf toolbar.

you can use notepad++ and its compare feature to compare the toolbar.xaml of both themes (machines (extended) and pixelplast).

reset the theme in the registry:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Jeskola\Buzz\Settings]
"Theme"="default"