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Arguelles TB4004

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:57 pm
by chahur
Hello
Generator Arguelles TB4004 :
Could anyone tell me the values of the "chord" param ?
Thanks

Re: Arguelles TB4004

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:13 pm
by mute
tb4004 is sample rate locked and there are tuning/crash issues... Joachim recreated it as a VST and the chords are labeled there. Even if you want to use the original buzz plugin you could use the VST for reference.

https://www.robotplanet.dk/audio/tb4005/

Re: Arguelles TB4004

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:22 pm
by chahur
I know that, thanks,
I try to remix an existing song which use Arguelles TB4004 (hello Mag). I just need to know the chord to be able to play it with another instrument.

Re: Arguelles TB4004

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:34 pm
by magmavander
Never had problem with it ;)
If I remember well, the chord type used is shown in the parameter window.
No buzz installed at the moment so I cant check it.
Here is the parameter window with "Chord" parameter showing which chord or wich specific mono synth is used (Guru Ps2 here).
Move the slider to see which chord you can use.

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Re: Arguelles TB4004

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:03 am
by chahur
Here is what the parameters windows shows for the Chord parameter :
0 : off
1 : Major: 4-7
2 : Minor: 3-7
3 : Minor: 4-8
4 : Major: 3-8
5 : Minor: 5-8
6 : Major: 5-9
7 : Minor: 5-10
8 : Major: 4-7-11
9 : Minor: 3-7-10
10: Minor: 3-7-9
11: Fat Moog
12: Moog 5th
13: Guru PS1
14: Guru PS2
15: VengaBoyz:(
It's just that I don't understand what it means ... I suppose that the numbers explain everything !
I tried to play the chord, (min or maj) with addition of the notes pointed by the intervals dicted by the numbers but it does not sound like the chords fired by Arguelles.

Thanks.

Re: Arguelles TB4004

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:24 pm
by temporalsounds
chahur wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:03 am It's just that I don't understand what it means ... I suppose that the numbers explain everything !
I tried to play the chord, (min or maj) with addition of the notes pointed by the intervals dicted by the numbers but it does not sound like the chords fired by Arguelles.
Have you tried WDE note detector ?( Not sure if displays chords..)

Re: Arguelles TB4004

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:59 pm
by magmavander
Maybe here :

https://www.mazmazika.com/chordanalyzer

it's an online free chord analyser. You can upload mp3 to be analysed.

Re: Arguelles TB4004

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:07 am
by chahur
OK I've got it.
It plays the bass note and only the notes specified in the parameters, (just ignore the minor/major info, not relevant).
The bass is doubled one octave below.
For example :
note C-4; chord 7 (Minor: 5-10) plays :
C3, C4, F4, E#4

Ouf :-)

Re: Arguelles TB4004

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:05 pm
by vacuum
I figured it out too

I tried to make a soundfont a long time ago, (with samples from tb4004).
It was not finished back then.

I read from the soundfont:

fat moog:
*root +4 cents
*root -4 cents
*root +12 semitones
*root -12 semitones

moog 5th:
*root
*root +3 cents
*root -3 cents
*root +3 cents +7 semitones
*root -3 cents -7 semitones

guru ps1: (maybe add another 4 cents to all notes, probably)
*root
*root +14 cents
*root -10 cents
*root -28 cents

guru ps2:
*root
*root +18 cents
*root -18 cents
*root -48 cents

vengaboyz:
*root -18 cents
*root +18 cents
*root -7 cents +16 semitones
*root -12 semitones

...maybe it helps...