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Odd Peer Ctrl Problem…

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:49 am
by Candle
So I've been playing around tonight with trying to get my son's X-Box One controller to work with Peer Control (following the information provided on this wonderful forum - thank you!). But I'm having the strangest problem with Peer Control - when I right-click on the Peer Control Machine and try to select the Assignment Settings, the GUI does not open. I've re-installed Peer Ctrl & still can't get the Assignment Settings to open. I also tried with Peer Ctrl Basic & have the same issue. Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Odd Peer Ctrl Problem…

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:52 am
by Candle
Looks like I'm not the only one with this issue…

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2322

I guess I'll give BuzzFixIt a try…

I'll let you all know if it works.

Thanks in advance.

Re: Odd Peer Ctrl Problem…

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:51 pm
by Evelon
Having the same issue here (x64). Tried re-inserting envelope.ocx with fixkit, but without any luck.
Peer Note-Pool, PeerLFO, etc are not working. Too bad.

Re: Odd Peer Ctrl Problem…

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:34 am
by mute
edit/updated:

to do it from cmd prompt without fixkit, run CMD as administrator (type cmd on the start menu, right click it, Run as Administrator)

C:\Users\aaron>h:
H:\>cd buzz
H:\Buzz>regsvr32 envelope.ocx

Re: Odd Peer Ctrl Problem…

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:38 am
by Candle
Hey Mute, thanks for the quick reply.

I was about to try the BuzzFixIt but saw your reply, so I fore-went (nubistic past tense of forego) the whole endeavour. I re-registered the ocx via command prompt (love those old dos commands!) but that hasn't changed anything. Peer Control still does not allow me to open the Assignment Manager dialogue. I do have the latest version of Peer Control, that was my first troubleshooting path - re-install from a freshly DL'd copy.

By Windows Theme/Hacks do you mean Buzz themes or Windows themes? If it's the latter, then I don't have any of those. If it's the former, I'm using a modified version of ILike Machines (Extended).

Evelon: I just tested Peer LFO & Peer-Note-Pool, both are working fine on my system :?

I'm running Windows 10 & Buzz build 1503 x86 with Peer Control version 1.5

Otherwsie I'm stumped…

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Re: Odd Peer Ctrl Problem…

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:43 am
by Candle
Just a weird thought from a non-coder: would there be a newer version of envelope.ocx? Could this be the issue? Or have I eliminated an ocx problem with what I have done thusfar :?:

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Re: Odd Peer Ctrl Problem…

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:14 am
by thOke
Here are the latest IX modifications of BTD Sys's machines:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/btdsys/files/

PeerCtrl 1.6 might work for you.

Re: Odd Peer Ctrl Problem…

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:45 pm
by IXix
thOke wrote:Here are the latest IX modifications of BTD Sys's machines:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/btdsys/files/

PeerCtrl 1.6 might work for you.
Hi all, sorry for chiming in late on this. I just tried and I have the same problem, Assignment Settings just won't open. PeerCtrl is one of the machines that I've barely touched but I'll see if I can figure out why this is happening and fix it if I can.

Re: Odd Peer Ctrl Problem…

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:50 pm
by IXix
I tried running FixKit to register envelope.ocx and it works again. I don't know how it got unregistered but it must have done somehow.

Re: Odd Peer Ctrl Problem…

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:54 pm
by mute
my earlier instructions on how to do it manually left out that you have to run cmd as admin to do it. the /s suppressed any errors you would've seen because of it. i updated that reply above.

to test i unregisted the ocx and it keep the assignments window from opening at all. after re-registering, it worked again.

Re: Odd Peer Ctrl Problem…

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:42 am
by Candle
I'll give that a try. Should someone put Peer Ctrl 1.6 on the robotplanet site? Seems this is the widest used repository of Machines & it doesn't have the latest version… Just a thought.

I'll let you know how the fix works.

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Re: Odd Peer Ctrl Problem…

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:30 am
by IXix
I really wish PeerCtrl and PeerADSR didn't rely on envelope.ocx. :(

I'm kind of tempted to try to get rid of it. :twisted:

Re: Odd Peer Ctrl Problem…

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:16 am
by Candle
Again, the non-coder talking here; what does envelope.ocx do? If the other Peer Machines don't rely on it, why do Peer ADSR & Control rely on it? Is there a way to change the Peer Code for these two machines so that they don't need to call upon it?

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Re: Odd Peer Ctrl Problem…

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:27 am
by Candle
I just re-registered envelope.ocx using adminitrator rights via command prompt (I sorta miss DOS commands, so nostalgic) & my Peer Control (still version 1.5) is now working as it should. :dance:

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Re: Odd Peer Ctrl Problem…

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:52 am
by IXix
Candle wrote:Again, the non-coder talking here; what does envelope.ocx do? If the other Peer Machines don't rely on it, why do Peer ADSR & Control rely on it? Is there a way to change the Peer Code for these two machines so that they don't need to call upon it?
It's an ActiveX control that gets loaded into the dialog. It provides the envelope editor which is why PeerCtrl and PeerADSR use it (it also provided the envelope for the old wavetable view).

The most annoying thing about it is that as you discovered, it needs to be registered with Windows to work, adding another layer of gotcha for the inexperienced and/or forgetful. The other annoying thing about it is that it's a black box, I have no control over how it works (I don't even fully understand how it gets loaded into the dialog) and therefore can't change/improve it in any way.

I'm somewhat tempted to write my own envelope control to provide the same functionality. It probably wouldn't be super difficult but it's not high amongst my priorities.

The other option would be to make a WPF interface instead but I'm not in a hurry to do that either. :)

Re: Odd Peer Ctrl Problem…

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:56 am
by Candle
Well, I'm glad I got it to work, either way. If/when you get around to coding a way around it, I think it might make it easier for everyone. But until then, they'll have to follow Mute's fix. Thanks for explaining, IX!

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