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Surge

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:34 am
by boombaxx
Hi thought this might of be an interest. Looks like a pretty sweet synth. It is open source so you can change it

https://github.com/kurasu/surge/releases

Re: Surge

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:51 pm
by tinga
Yes, great machine, with good presets, I like the sound, cool to see free vsti with this quality, I didn't try the vocoder, each oscillator can be an audio input. 8-)

Re: Surge

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:55 pm
by tinga
Surge is now very interesting, I like it because it has 12 LFO, accepts scala files, better filters now, a nightly build, a new gui, lot of presets, dual mode, many good things, a must have free hybrid synth.
The surge team maintains also Dexed

Re: Surge

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:04 am
by mik82
While we're talking about open source synths, I'd recommend trying Odin 2

https://www.thewavewarden.com/odin2

It's not as deep as Surge, but still loads of possibilities.

Re: Surge

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:01 pm
by Willy
VSTi doesn't recognize VST3 synths?

Re: Surge

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:20 pm
by tinga
Willy wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:01 pm
VSTi doesn't recognize VST3 synths?
Did you make a full rescan? (or scan for new, I forget it every time)
mik82 wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:04 am
While we're talking about open source synths, I'd recommend trying Odin 2
Thank you, very cool synth.
Vst bridge for Dexed and Odin 2 (ctrl+alt)

Re: Surge

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:33 pm
by Willy
tinga wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:20 pm
Did you make a full rescan? (or scan for new, I forget it every time)
Oh. Well I did now, but the filename is "Surge.vst3" and VSTi can only load a dll extension.

Re: Surge

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:06 pm
by temporalsounds
@Willy
try to add in VSTi preferences this directory:

Re: Surge

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:56 pm
by River Cricket
tinga wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:55 pm
The surge team maintains also Dexed
Glad to see Dexed is finally under active development again! It desperately needs a rescaleable GUI - programming it these days on a high-res setup is about as obnoxious as programming an actual DX7. :lol:
temporalsounds wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:06 pm
@Willy
try to add in VSTi preferences this directory:
Just the parent directory (\VST3\) is good enough, PVST is smart enough to automatically parse all subdirectories.

You also don't need to rescan (or at least, I don't, not when adding new VSTs - I believe it automatically scans for new machines on Buzz launch). EDIT: Oddly, you actually DO need to manually scan new to detect new VST3s - though VST2s are auto-detected on launch. Weird!

However, in order to actually load VST3s, you can't use the PVST double-click menu. Instead, search for the machine name on the right panel:

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(you can also right-click a VST machine and go to Plugins > , but I prefer being able to filter with text input :D)

Re: Surge

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:07 pm
by rav
As we speaking about interesting synths - check out new free one Vital. It's amazing HQ wavetable synth. It have many unique features as text to wavetable, stereo modulations, pitch snap to scale per oscilator/wavetable and many interesting wavetable modulations like - making shepard tone from single note. It also have modern standard features like MPE support, microtonal, audio-rate modulation and possibility modulating a modulator :dance:

Vital

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:00 pm
by tinga
rav wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:07 pm
As we speaking about interesting synths - check out new free one Vital. It's amazing HQ wavetable synth. :dance:
Yes! Amazing Synth, and the free version is "the full synth with all features", thank you for the link.
Vocal synthesis in lot of language, with a great quality. :dance: 8-) :dance:

Re: Surge

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:32 am
by mik82
rav wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:07 pm
As we speaking about interesting synths - check out new free one Vital.
Thanks! I'd read about this being under development a few months ago.

Re: Surge

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:32 pm
by magmavander
Impossible to have Surge in Buzz :cry:
I have added the vst3 directory to Polac VSTi preferences (C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\VST3) and also I did the same with the program files "C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3".
But I cant load the "Surge.vst3" file, it doesnt not appears, even after a scan for new. Must I do a full rescan ?
Some stuff I dont understand very well : there is both bin32 and a bin64 in Buzz directory. Is it ok ?
And I have installed both the pvst64_v1.1.10b34 and the pvst_v1.1.10b34.
Should I install a Buzz 64 also to be able to load vst3 ?
Thanks

Re: Surge

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:40 pm
by thOke
magmavander wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:32 pm
Impossible to have Surge in Buzz :cry:
I have added the vst3 directory to Polac VSTi preferences (C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\VST3) and also I did the same with the program files "C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3".
But I cant load the "Surge.vst3" file, it doesnt not appears, even after a scan for new. Must I do a full rescan ?
Some stuff I dont understand very well : there is both bin32 and a bin64 in Buzz directory. Is it ok ?
And I have installed both the pvst64_v1.1.10b34 and the pvst_v1.1.10b34.
Should I install a Buzz 64 also to be able to load vst3 ?
Thanks
I also had problems to load the vst3 version.
Opening it in the x64 version of BUZZ worked. The saved file nopw also opens in Buzz x86.
You can try it and save it as a template if it works.
Here is the saved file (with only one instance of Surge, nothing else)
Surge.zip
(4.79 KiB) Downloaded 42 times
Before you could try to scan only the vst3 loader in polac preferences ....

Good luck! ;)

Re: Surge

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:00 pm
by temporalsounds
magmavander wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:32 pm
Some stuff I dont understand very well : there is both bin32 and a bin64 in Buzz directory. Is it ok ?
And I have installed both the pvst64_v1.1.10b34 and the pvst_v1.1.10b34.
Should I install a Buzz 64 also to be able to load vst3 ?
Thanks
Hi Mag
I have installed Polac VST: pvst_v1.1.10b34 in 32bit Buzz ,pvst64_v1.1.10b34 in 64bit Buzz
bin64 directory installed in 32bit Buzz,bin32 directory in 64bit Buzz
I click "Scan For New " after installing Surge( x86 only plugin).But I'm not sure now.I think ,Buzz scanned all plugins I added in Global 2 preferences.
Try first that thOke's method for sure..

Re: Surge

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:31 pm
by magmavander
I think I have to install Buzz 64 then... We'll see. Thank you - you two ;)

Re: Surge

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:09 pm
by HerrFornit
installed surge 1.7.1 32 bit sucessfully in 32bit Buzz.

polac VSTi > preferences > global2 > scanshell > vsti3shell.dll > restart BUZZ

Re: Surge

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:13 am
by polac
Some stuff I dont understand very well : there is both bin32 and a bin64 in Buzz directory. Is it ok ?
And I have installed both the pvst64_v1.1.10b34 and the pvst_v1.1.10b34.
It is wrong to install both pvst packages to 32bit Buzz. There should be only a bin64 directory. In 64bit buzz there should be a bin32 directory.

pvst_v1.1.10b34 is meant for 32bit Buzz.
pvst64_v1.1.10b34 is meant for 64bit Buzz.

Also both Surge versions(x64/x86) should work in 32bit Buzz. However I would use the 32bit version in 32bit Buzz. But I'll check if I can get the 64bit version of Surge working.

Re: Surge

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:32 am
by polac
Ok i checked the 64bit version of Surge, seems to work in 32bit Buzz here. What i have done:

polac VSTi > preferences > global2 > scanshell > vsti3shell.x64.dll > restart BUZZ

Re: Surge

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:55 pm
by Willy
polac wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:32 am
Ok i checked the 64bit version of Surge, seems to work in 32bit Buzz here. What i have done:

polac VSTi > preferences > global2 > scanshell > vsti3shell.x64.dll > restart BUZZ
I don't understand the "scan shell" part. If I click on it, nothing happens. I also don't even know how to have VSTs appear in the machine search like River Cricket shows. Not even my working VSTs appear in that list.