Modern Sequence Editor

wde
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Modern Sequence Editor

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Hey devs,

I needed a bit more modern version of the good old Buzz sequence editor and ended up with this:
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Thanks goes to the master himself because this is 99% based on the horizontal sequence editor you can find in Buzz already. What I did was to switch rows and columns, and did some small tinkering here and there.

Include this to your song and you are good to go. The neat thing is that you can reposition the sequence window next to main Buzz window or separate monitor.

In terms of features it is in parity with the horizontal one. I'm happy with the features so I'm not going to add anything extra. If you are looking for a project that helps you survive the next social distancing period then this might be it ;)

Enjoy.
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Re: Modern Sequence Editor

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Say what!? :shock:

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Re: Modern Sequence Editor

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You are overhauling bUZZ!

I always wondered if it is possible to see the sequence AND the machine setup at same time. This is the answer!

Thank you.

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Am I right in thinking it goes in Generators? I get this when I double click the machine...

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I'd try to debug it but I'm busy breaking Magic. :lol:

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IXix wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:09 am
Am I right in thinking it goes in Generators? I get this when I double click the machine...
No problems here in generators folder.

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IXix wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:09 am
I'd try to debug it but I'm busy breaking Magic. :lol:
:D

I think the issue was related to loading theme, fixed now. You were using default theme right?

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Amazing thing, you! ;)
Thank you :!: :dance:

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wde wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:09 am
You were using default theme right?
Yes. I'll test later when I've finished fixing Magic for the day. Got a LOT of fixing to do. :lol:

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Oh yes! Another wonder from Mister WDE :dance:
No problems here, worked fine.
THANK YOU!!!

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Loads okay now but the patterns don't have their names, still default theme (I'm fairly old school :D). Changing theme fixes it but only if I delete the machine and add a new instance.
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Oh wow, what an awesome tool, thank you WDE! I am going to have some fun with this :dance: I'm getting a few glitches though. Like IXix, I have trouble if I don't use theme <default>, though the error message is different:

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Theme in this case is Themes\BEN_04.col, an ancient theme I made, but it's the same with any theme, including those that use a folder containing images and a 'theme.xml' file. I can temporarily use another theme if I:
  1. Make sure theme is <default>
  2. Add ModernSeq (or load a file containing ModernSeq instance)
  3. Change to another theme
But if I save the file and open it again I get the same error message. Only way to load a file with ModernSeq, or add a new instance of ModernSeq, is to have the <default> theme.

I also get the patterns without names:

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Also, would it be possible to display sequencer steps other than 16? The example I have above appears as follows in the oldskool sequencer view:

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At the moment you can only place patterns at positions that are multiples of 16. There's no way to place a pattern at position 56, for example.

The double-click to make new patterns is awesome! This will make life easier and more fun!

Thank you so much dude :D :D :D

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I think I found the issue with disappearing text. Updated.
etruscan wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:03 pm
Oh wow, what an awesome tool, thank you WDE! I am going to have some fun with this :dance: I'm getting a few glitches though. Like IXix, I have trouble if I don't use theme <default>, though the error message is different:
Very strange. Sorry, I can't reproduce this.
Also, would it be possible to display sequencer steps other than 16? The example I have above appears as follows in the oldskool sequencer view:
Right click somewhere in the sequence and select 'Set Time Signature'. This can be also found from the horizontal sequence editor.

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Yeah, seems to be working properly now. Really cool. 8-)

Don't know if it's possible but clicking 'settings' in your machine brings up the settings for the built in Seq Editor and it would be pretty slick if your machine obeyed those same settings.

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wde wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:55 pm
I think I found the issue with disappearing text. Updated.
etruscan wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:03 pm
Oh wow, what an awesome tool, thank you WDE! I am going to have some fun with this :dance: I'm getting a few glitches though. Like IXix, I have trouble if I don't use theme <default>, though the error message is different:
Very strange. Sorry, I can't reproduce this.
Also, would it be possible to display sequencer steps other than 16? The example I have above appears as follows in the oldskool sequencer view:
Right click somewhere in the sequence and select 'Set Time Signature'. This can be also found from the horizontal sequence editor.

I'll do some more tinkering, maybe try with a fresh installation of Buzz, and see if that makes any difference. My installation is basically ~20 years old in terms of the contents of the Buzz folder so there could be something in there upsetting things.

Awesome re. 'Set Time Signature' - I'll check that out!

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I did some testing with the included themes in a fresh installation of 32-bit Buzz from here and Modern Sequence Editor, on a different computer.

I found that themes which have a Themes\<theme name>\Sequence Editor\SequenceEditor.xaml file work fine. The ones that don't give an error like this:

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This includes themes that have a .col file and associated folder, and ones that are just a standalone .col.


'Default Glass' and 'iLKke pixelplast (new)' also give the following error, though it happens when you double-click on any machine, so it's not specific to ModernSeq:

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I used 'Set Time Signature' in ModernSeq to great effect; thanks dude! It doesn't update the step in the old vertical sequence view, but I suspect I'm not going to use that any more :)

I hope this feedback is useful! I really feel like I'm just bagging out your awesome machine . . .

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Re: Modern Sequence Editor

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Quick and dirty solution is to fallback to default theme if something goes wrong. Seems to work.
etruscan wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:09 am
'Default Glass' and 'iLKke pixelplast (new)' also give the following error, though it happens when you double-click on any machine, so it's not specific to ModernSeq:
Yeah, I think these themes have some bugs. Theme called Mire is super smooth and modern. I highly recommend it.
IXix wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:21 pm
Don't know if it's possible but clicking 'settings' in your machine brings up the settings for the built in Seq Editor and it would be pretty slick if your machine obeyed those same settings.
I think this would require custom build of BuzzGUI.Common. Better not to touch it ;)

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This is awesome. It really expands the workflow in Buzz :mrgreen:

I like that you can choose the colours for each track - but I'm wondering if it would be possible to use the standard "Windows Colour Picker Window" or even enter in RGB values so that we could have custom colours?

WDE, you've done so much to expand the capabilities of Buzz in the last few years - so has IX. I think you both need a huge applause from the community!

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Re: Modern Sequence Editor

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wde wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:35 pm
Quick and dirty solution is to fallback to default theme if something goes wrong. Seems to work.
etruscan wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:09 am
'Default Glass' and 'iLKke pixelplast (new)' also give the following error, though it happens when you double-click on any machine, so it's not specific to ModernSeq:
Yeah, I think these themes have some bugs. Theme called Mire is super smooth and modern. I highly recommend it.
Mire is nice; thanks for the recommendation :)

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OMG amazing work! Thanks so much for this.

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Nice work! I didn't realise stuff like this could be done within Buzz. I need a second screen now..

If the sequence editor was adaptable like this, then the Jeskola Live machine is ripe for modification/increased functionality (hint :) )

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