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PeerTrigger + PeerADSR = sort of compressor/expander

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:10 pm
by vacuum
PeerTrigger + PeerADSR = sort of compressor/expander
PeerTrigger + PeerADSR = sort of compressor/expander
What's possible ???

- compression/expansion and dynamics in ways that are silly
- stuff like putting a lopass filter to more quiet parts of a single drum hit (and vice versa)
- replace and use PeerADSR on other effects such as pitch effects, distortion or whatever can be "enveloped"
- maybe use this as a drumloop editor or even build more complex structures to completely change drumloops

What's happening ???

- LdC Automax: move reset to normalise input
- Bigyo Delay: sound is delayed by 11 ms so that peercontrollers aren't too slow to cause clicks
but it's difficult to remove them completely
(LD transient can eventually remove some clickyness. It's there in bypass mode)
(to get rid of the delay: add a Bigyo Delay with the same settings to other outputs)
- Peertrigger: to trigger PeerCtrl and send 1 trigger to 3 channels of PeerADSR
- p. ADSR ch.0: 1 PeerADSR channel for 1 Cheapo amp
- p. ADSR ch.1: 1 PeerADSR channel for 1 Cheapo amp + Bigyo 2p filter
- p. ADSR ch.2: 1 PeerADSR channel for 1 Cheapo amp to control the above 2
- sequencer: one PeerADSR for envelopes, and one for Min/Max and p. ADSR ch.2

- rightclick PeerADSR in machineview to add more custom envelopes
- custom envelopes: high = dry, low = wet (and/or filtered) (except when min/max are turned around)
- simplifying idea: set both Min and Max of other PeerADSR channels to the same value (to make them
put out a dry or static signal, so that you know better what you are doing
- adjust Peertigger's beatsensitivity and reset LdC Automax for other sounds.

Peer LFO, Oomek Exciter, LD transient and Joachims Limiter are optional.
... and ofcourse if you understand all this you would make your own automation etc ...
this is a complex example.

a template by Vacuum, inspired by a template on buzzmachines.com by Mute
peertrigger-compressor-expander.zip
PeerTrigger + PeerADSR = sort of compressor/expander
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Re: PeerTrigger + PeerADSR = sort of compressor/expander

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:24 am
by szaszhareen
this looks awesome - thanks for posting it with such a great explanation!

even if i put the latest cheapo amp from buzzmachines into my gear/effects folder, the bmx won't load. first it said cheapo amp wasn't there, now it insists that cheapo amp is open in another program, even though it's not.

since cheapo amp has been kind of a pain for many buzz users after new buzz was released, any chance you'd upload a bmx (or xml template) with mt nada or jeskola gain in it's place?

Re: PeerTrigger + PeerADSR = sort of compressor/expander

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:43 am
by UNZ
or mixIO ;)

Re: PeerTrigger + PeerADSR = sort of compressor/expander

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:07 am
by szaszhareen
I replaced ch.amp with mixio. This is pretty sweet!

Re: PeerTrigger + PeerADSR = sort of compressor/expander

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:27 pm
by vacuum
I did'nt know cheapo amp caused problems. But maybe it is because it needs some dll in the buzz or windows dir, not sure (fixkit?).
szaszhareen wrote:I replaced ch.amp with mixio. This is pretty sweet!
Yes, MixIO is a very nice replacement. It's got many extra's. The new version needs lower inertia and lower input (12db) settings though.
I should have used that instead. Can be used for crossfading too (works fine in my latest track).

Re: PeerTrigger + PeerADSR = sort of compressor/expander

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:44 pm
by vacuum
BTW sharing/showing things in a bmx is in most cases just as good as showing things in a template or preset, or isn't it?
I mean: people can decide to drag and drop templates from the bmx to the template dir any way they prefer.

Re: PeerTrigger + PeerADSR = sort of compressor/expander

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:50 am
by szaszhareen
either way works just as well for me. templates are just the cool, new-fangled way to do it. ;)