matilde and unwieldy tracker volume ramping..

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esp81
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matilde and unwieldy tracker volume ramping..

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Something that has always bothered me about matilde and unwieldy tracker is the volume/amplitude ramp setting. I like to use note offs to shorten certain drum hits in a pattern, but it often causes clicking sounds. (mostly happens on bass drums) I can of course turn on the volume ramping to remove the clicking, but this totally kills the attack of my drums even at very low ramping times. I really wish there were separate volume ramp settings for the attack and release, so I could enable it only for the release, and use note offs without losing the sharp attack on my drum hits. Does anyone know of a solution to this problem? Any help would be greatly appreciated..
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I'm guessing the click occurs in the next effect? If so, try cheapo fixer, -206db, infinitely. You might have to adjust the noise level, since some (typically VST) plugins have a floor of around -150db or something like that.
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mridlen wrote:I'm guessing the click occurs in the next effect? If so, try cheapo fixer, -206db, infinitely. You might have to adjust the noise level, since some (typically VST) plugins have a floor of around -150db or something like that.
this has nothing to do with what he describes. the click comes from ramping the volume too fast (or not at all, as in: drop to 0.0 instantly which will pretty much always cause clicks in low-mid range sounds)

the fix is exactly what he describes: make matilde have two DIFFERENT settings for attack and release volume ramp. 90% of the time you want NO volume ramp on attack (note-on), but quite a bit of it on release (note-off), because you can then cut the sample with note-offs.
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UNZ wrote: the fix is exactly what he describes: make matilde have two DIFFERENT settings for attack and release volume ramp. 90% of the time you want NO volume ramp on attack (note-on), but quite a bit of it on release (note-off), because you can then cut the sample with note-offs.
Yea, this is exactly the solution...I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned before. If anyone plans on updating matilde or unwieldy tracker please consider doing this.
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Sorry for hijacking, but this has been on my mind aswell. I'm glad I wasn't alone.
It would be awesome to have separate attack ramp and release ramp options (and whatever you set them to, would be default every time you load that machine).
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Evelon wrote:Sorry for hijacking, but this has been on my mind aswell. I'm glad I wasn't alone.
It would be awesome to have separate attack ramp and release ramp options (and whatever you set them to, would be default every time you load that machine).
I'm also glad I am not the only one, in my opinion it's a huge flaw. It's a shame because besides this one problem matilde and especially unwieldy tracker are the best drum samplers ever created. I'd be willing to donate some cash towards somebody fixing it.
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I've just noticed sample grid has this problem too, maybe it's just a design flaw in buzz itself?
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esp81 wrote:I've just noticed sample grid has this problem too, maybe it's just a design flaw in buzz itself?
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Ok, well the clicking still seems to happen in sample grid even when using its volume envelopes, which made me think that it was possibly just a bug in Buzz.
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