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				Re: Graphic EQ
				Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:47 am
				by mute
				great machines bigyo, thanks again ;]
			 
			
					
				Re: Graphic EQ
				Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:57 pm
				by Evelon
				I really really like these EQs! Simple and to the point. Using these, I remembered how much I miss graphic EQs (both hardware and software) after using parametric EQs so much lately. 
I have one (maybe small) request - is it possible to make an on/off (bypass) parameter, maybe at the top of the parameter list? 
I'm an old hardware sound engineer guy, and I used to A/B the sound (studio recording and live) quite often to reference whenever I was totally off (or spot on) from the original sound source. The ability to quickly check the bypassed sound is something that I miss quite often. I know that loudness comes into play here, but referencing is very nice.
			 
			
					
				Re: Graphic EQ
				Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:12 pm
				by bigyo
				there is bypass in new buzz, right-click the machine
			 
			
					
				Re: Graphic EQ
				Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:20 pm
				by Evelon
				I know that. I just wanted a quicker way inside the parameter view, while fiddling with the EQ.
nm then.
			 
			
					
				Re: Graphic EQ
				Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:29 pm
				by strobotone
				you can make your own bypass button anywhere you like.
it should also be possible to put it in the parameter window.
i use the bypass function for each effect as a button in my theme also.
			 
			
					
				Re: Graphic EQ
				Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:32 pm
				by Joachip
				bigyo wrote:i think wet/dry is not a good idea for EQ, since it has non-linear phase
This is correct. Let's say you boost a frequency band by 10 dB, and you think it's too much and only want half as much, you should simply just boost 5 dB instead.
If you mix the boosted signal with the dry, you'll get a weird fuzzy bad sound because of the changed phase. A bit like a phaser in a fixed position. So here's a production tip: Never mix dry and wet signal of EQs or lowpass/highpass filter. It usually doesn't sound good.
A 
did an experiment to describe the problem. There's also a link to a super nerdy wikipedia article on the subject, but I doubt very many people will understand that.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Graphic EQ
				Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:47 pm
				by mute
				speaking of phase. do we even have a native 0 phase effect? those are actually pretty hard to comeby, even in vsts
			 
			
					
				Re: Graphic EQ
				Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:55 pm
				by Evelon
				strobotone wrote:you can make your own bypass button anywhere you like.
it should also be possible to put it in the parameter window.
i use the bypass function for each effect as a button in my theme also.
I know you are just trying to be nice...
so..can you post the code? (I don't even know how to code, or what software to use to code it. I would really like to know though, as I have tons of great [imho] ideas)
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Graphic EQ
				Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:53 am
				by strobotone
				sure, i will help you with that as soon as i have time.
btw. every function you can use from the context menu (mute/solo/bypass etc) is bound to a parameter as you can see in the xaml files.
so you can use the same and bind it to something like a button.
there is no real coding involved. just grab an editor like notepad++.
			 
			
					
				Re: Graphic EQ
				Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:55 pm
				by Evelon
				Very much appreciated. Thanks! I'll look up NotePad++. 
Sidenote: is there a graphic/WYSIWYG software to use for editing themes, etc? I'd like to contribute as much as possible, but I suck at all this coding. My background is more graphic/design (which I also studied).
			 
			
					
				Re: Graphic EQ
				Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:06 pm
				by Buzztler
				Sorry only me, just wanted to say u studied the right thing EVELON. I like your themes so far  

  and also the splash screens for old Buzz ... cool graphics ...  

 
			 
			
					
				Re: Graphic EQ
				Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:30 pm
				by wde
				Evelon wrote:Very much appreciated. Thanks! I'll look up NotePad++. 
Sidenote: is there a graphic/WYSIWYG software to use for editing themes, etc? I'd like to contribute as much as possible, but I suck at all this coding. My background is more graphic/design (which I also studied).
You could try 
kaxaml. Seems to be a good tool to learn xaml.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Graphic EQ
				Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:55 pm
				by Evelon
				Thank you Buzztler and wde! I will get to it and hopefully get some new things going.
			 
			
					
				Re: Graphic EQ
				Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:35 pm
				by bigyo
				mute wrote:speaking of phase. do we even have a native 0 phase effect? those are actually pretty hard to comeby, even in vsts
i'm going to make linear-phase eq. here's an early version, it uses a lot of cpu.
http://bigyo.untergrund.net/buzz/bigyo_ ... in_v00.zip 
			 
			
					
				Re: Graphic EQ
				Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:20 am
				by strobotone
				Evelon wrote:strobotone wrote:you can make your own bypass button anywhere you like.
it should also be possible to put it in the parameter window.
i use the bypass function for each effect as a button in my theme also.
I know you are just trying to be nice...
so..can you post the code? (I don't even know how to code, or what software to use to code it. I would really like to know though, as I have tons of great [imho] ideas)
 
send you a PM.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Graphic EQ
				Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:53 pm
				by Evelon
				strobotone wrote:Evelon wrote:strobotone wrote:you can make your own bypass button anywhere you like.
it should also be possible to put it in the parameter window.
i use the bypass function for each effect as a button in my theme also.
I know you are just trying to be nice...
so..can you post the code? (I don't even know how to code, or what software to use to code it. I would really like to know though, as I have tons of great [imho] ideas)
 
send you a PM.
 
Replied. 

 
			 
			
					
				Re: Graphic EQ
				Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:11 am
				by bigyo
				Linear-phase ParamEQ updated. Suggestions would be appreciated.
http://bigyo.untergrund.net/buzz/bigyo_ ... in_v01.zip 
			 
			
					
				Re: Graphic EQ
				Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:50 am
				by Klangkulisse
				
Thanks a lot for still making new machines come alive  
 
Just made a simple cpu consumption test (my favourite activity since a few days  

 )
Played a single note ...
Qsamo default preset: 3 %
ParamEQLin: 13 %
Your latest EQ-15 (for comparing): 0,5 %
Suggestion: mmmmh... less consum....   

 
			 
			
					
				Re: Graphic EQ
				Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:55 pm
				by mute
				a linear phase eq is going to suck up some cpu, theres no way to avoid it. first impression, i think those #s are quite low actually..
			 
			
					
				Re: Graphic EQ
				Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:15 pm
				by bigyo
				http://bigyo.untergrund.net/buzz/bigyo_ ... in_v02.zip
compiled using FFTReal library by Laurent de Soras
with SubTickTiming disabled uses much less cpu power, it could run that fast when SubTickTiming is on, but with additional delay...