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Re: New Menu and themes

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:55 am
by mes
the dark theme seems to be working fine here...I'm at 0.4% cpu and on a 5+ year old pc.

Re: New Menu and themes

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:14 am
by IXix
Klangkulisse wrote:The dark theme is really cool, but still suffering a 50 % cpu consumption by just loading buzz and doing nothing.
Try turning off background images in Settings->Sequence Editor (maybe pattern editor too if that doesn't fix it).

Re: New Menu and themes

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:43 am
by nikto
The awesome Simplon III theme stopped working in the new builds, and the new 3.2 version shows the same:
'Failed to create a 'Command' from the text 'I:ToolbarVM.NewFileCommand'.
(And then another screen with errors.)

What am I missing?

Re: New Menu and themes

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:49 am
by UNZ
nikto wrote:The awesome Simplon III theme stopped working in the new builds, and the new 3.2 version shows the same:
'Failed to create a 'Command' from the text 'I:ToolbarVM.NewFileCommand'.
(And then another screen with errors.)

What am I missing?
all older themes will probably need to be updated

Re: New Menu and themes

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:57 am
by nikto
UNZ wrote:all older themes will probably need to be updated
understood.

btw, the new dark theme looks uber cool, very impressive! Thanks, Oskari!

Re: New Menu and themes

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:04 am
by strobotone

Re: New Menu and themes

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:33 am
by strobotone
however, since 1456+ only the standard theme works correctly with the wavetableeditor.
unable to zoom in/out there with other themes.
anyone else experiencing this?

Re: New Menu and themes

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:28 pm
by mcbpete
Yeah, updating themes so they're compatible with the new builds is becoming an almost daily activity now :lol: (took me ages to work out how to get mine to work for versions post 1454 - I'm a little slow ...)

Re: New Menu and themes

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:43 pm
by IXix
strobotone wrote:however, since 1456+ only the standard theme works correctly with the wavetableeditor.
unable to zoom in/out there with other themes.
anyone else experiencing this?
Yes.

Re: New Menu and themes

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:04 pm
by strobotone
there is this lag when using the quicknewmachinewindow of the new dark theme.
compared to the default theme it is really slow.

or is it just me?

Re: New Menu and themes

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:54 pm
by Klangkulisse
IXix wrote:
Klangkulisse wrote:The dark theme is really cool, but still suffering a 50 % cpu consumption by just loading buzz and doing nothing.
Try turning off background images in Settings->Sequence Editor (maybe pattern editor too if that doesn't fix it).
Thanks for the hint.
It helped – a little :|
After disabling background image in sequencer and pattern view and a restart of buzz (otherwise it has no effect) it seems to lower cpu consumption about 4 % as an average, but going from 38 to 50 % by even not moving the mouse.
So it seems that the "special" graphics have an impact.

I went through the whole settings menu trying "true" and "false" for every item. Didn't change anything. So what else could I do? :?

And this seems to be a good opportunity to thank the buzz forums team to enable questions like this, thanks :)

Re: New Menu and themes

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:57 pm
by Klangkulisse
strobotone wrote:there is this lag when using the quicknewmachinewindow of the new dark theme.
compared to the default theme it is really slow.

or is it just me?
Feeling a little desperate about the extraordinary cpu consumpion – but this works for me exactly like default theme :)

Re: New Menu and themes

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:21 pm
by UNZ
Klangkulisse wrote:
strobotone wrote:there is this lag when using the quicknewmachinewindow of the new dark theme.
compared to the default theme it is really slow.

or is it just me?
Feeling a little desperate about the extraordinary cpu consumpion – but this works for me exactly like default theme :)
in the debug log when buzz starts, what does this line say ?

00:00 [GUI] RenderCapability::Tier == 2

what's your tier ?

Re: New Menu and themes

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:37 pm
by strobotone
level 2 should give hardware accelleration without any problems.
so maybe you are running on wpf software rendering?

Re: New Menu and themes

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:03 am
by Klangkulisse
UNZ wrote:
Klangkulisse wrote:
strobotone wrote:there is this lag when using the quicknewmachinewindow of the new dark theme.
compared to the default theme it is really slow.

or is it just me?
Feeling a little desperate about the extraordinary cpu consumpion – but this works for me exactly like default theme :)
in the debug log when buzz starts, what does this line say ?

00:00 [GUI] RenderCapability::Tier == 2

what's your tier ?
Thanks for your further investigation :)
My tier is:

00:00 [GUI] RenderCapability::Tier == 2


Here is the complete beginning part of the log:

00:00 [Startup] Buzz build 1458 (MI_VERSION 62)
00:00 [Startup] Load 'BuzzGUI.dll'
00:00 [Engine] Using 1 threads in multithreaded mode
00:00 [Engine] Worker thread 0 affinity set to 1
00:00 [Engine] Worker thread 0 priority 15
00:00 [GUI] RenderCapability::Tier == 2
00:00 [Startup] ReadAudioDriverList
00:00 [ADM] Failed to load driver 'asiocfg.dll'
00:00 [ADM] Loaded driver 'RenderToDisk.dll'
00:00 [ADM] Loaded driver 'wo_asio.dll'
00:00 [ADM] Loaded driver 'wo_DirectX.dll'
00:00 [ADM] Loaded driver 'wo_ds.dll'
00:01 [ADM] Loaded driver 'wo_mme.dll'
00:01 [ADM] Loaded driver 'wo_null.dll'
00:01 [ADM] Loaded driver 'wo_pasio.dll'
00:01 [ADM] Loaded driver 'wo_silent.dll'
00:01 [ADM] Failed to load driver 'wo_wasapi.dll'
00:01 [ADM] Loaded driver 'wo_waveout.dll'
00:01 [ADM] Loaded driver 'wo_wdm.dll'
00:01 [ADM] [Polac ASIO] New Instance
00:01 [ADM] [Polac ASIO] Initialize
00:01 [Engine] Audio thread priority 15
00:01 [GUI] Begin LoadTheme 'iLKke machines (extended)'
00:01 [GUI] Create toolbar
00:01 [GUI] Create parameter window
00:01 [GUI] Create machine view
00:02 [GUI] Create wavetable view
00:03 [GUI] Create sequence editor
00:03 [WPFTraceListener] BindingExpression path error: 'BindableSettings' property not found on 'object' ''PatternEditor' (Name='')'. BindingExpression:Path=BindableSettings.BackgroundImage; DataItem='PatternEditor' (Name=''); target element is 'Border' (Name=''); target property is 'NoTarget' (type 'Object')
00:03 [WPFTraceListener] BindingExpression path error: 'BindableSettings' property not found on 'object' ''PatternEditor' (Name='')'. BindingExpression:Path=BindableSettings.BackgroundImage; DataItem='PatternEditor' (Name=''); target element is 'Border' (Name=''); target property is 'NoTarget' (type 'Object')
00:03 [WPFTraceListener] BindingExpression path error: 'BindableSettings' property not found on 'object' ''PatternEditor' (Name='')'. BindingExpression:Path=BindableSettings.BackgroundImage; DataItem='PatternEditor' (Name=''); target element is 'Border' (Name=''); target property is 'NoTarget' (type 'Object')
00:04 [GUI] End LoadTheme 'iLKke machines (extended)'
00:04 [Startup] Load Machines
00:04 [MM] Read 'H:\BuzzNew\Gear\gear_defaults.xml'


etc.

Re: New Menu and themes

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:09 am
by Klangkulisse
strobotone wrote:level 2 should give hardware accelleration without any problems.
so maybe you are running on wpf software rendering?
Thanks for your further investigation too :)

I tried both possibilities "true" and "false" (with restating, if that makes any difference), but on both the same terrifying cpu consumption.
Is there a recommended state?

Re: New Menu and themes

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:00 am
by mantratronic
Software rendering should be off, and it really suggests that there is a problem with your video card/driver/settings if there is no change when turning it on/off. Look in windows and your video settings for hardware acceleration, there is often a slider saying how acceleration much you want for windows/wpf. If this is set to none, if would explain why buzz is going so slow. (in general you want the max hardware acceleration anyway)

Re: New Menu and themes

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:51 am
by UNZ
make sure windows is fully up to date.
get latest driver for your graphics card.

Re: New Menu and themes

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:15 am
by beuze
Build 1458


When I choose the iLKke pixelplast (new) theme (my favorite, unfortunately :| ), I get the message :

'Failed to create a 'Command' from the text 'I:ToolbarVM.NewFileCommand'. Line number '102' and line position '29'. The theme comes but by reopening I get the same error message and the toolbar is missing.

Re: New Menu and themes

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:39 am
by strobotone
pixelplast is not yet configured for the new wpf toolbar.

you can use notepad++ and its compare feature to compare the toolbar.xaml of both themes (machines (extended) and pixelplast).

reset the theme in the registry:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Jeskola\Buzz\Settings]
"Theme"="default"