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Hello,

while jamming around in Buzz, triggering patterns using the Keyboard this one jumped straight in my face. An Ableton fashioned Clip Launcher on top of the sequence editor would be great! Just made a quick mockup:



The idea is pretty simple:

The Clip Launcher is a layer on top of the sequence editor that represents all its patterns in above manner with the ability to launch clips via mouse, keyboard and (most importantly) midi.

Okay - you may wonder why?

It'd add much more live-playing possibilities to Buzz. Changing patterns in the current version works of course but changing between midi controllers and the keyboard, then - depending on the amount of patterns you've got - starting the right one at the right time is a hassle.

Clips would always be launched at the beginning of the next x bar(s) so you can fire stuff in advance and keep tweaking your controller without worrying much.

Obviously you could also record arrangements from the clip launcher by jamming with clips.

Everybody got it? Now who'd be up to code it?

this is a classical 'i want to use buzz but it should be like ableton'-thread. try livejumphack - it does pretty much what you're asking for, but not by launching individual patterns but jumping to places in bmx where the desired pattern combination is.

tbh, i want this too, been toying the idea around since at least a year or two, even started working on some primitive pattern editor and seq to later evolve into this. It needs to be very well thought out tough and i still wonder about how to solve some things and a bit torn between doing this, improving mixio, working on the tracker or just make more music hehe...

sparschaeler wrote:this is a classical 'i want to use buzz but it should be like ableton'-thread. try livejumphack - it does pretty much what you're asking for, but not by launching individual patterns but jumping to places in bmx where the desired pattern combination is.

If i'd want it to be Ableton i'd use Ableton. That's not the point. And Livejumphack failed in a number of ways for me and others so it's not an option.

This is a functionality that simply works best for live jams. Simple as that.

rktic wrote:

sparschaeler wrote:this is a classical 'i want to use buzz but it should be like ableton'-thread. try livejumphack - it does pretty much what you're asking for, but not by launching individual patterns but jumping to places in bmx where the desired pattern combination is.

If i'd want it to be Ableton i'd use Ableton. That's not the point. And Livejumphack failed in a number of ways for me and others so it's not an option.

This is a functionality that simply works best for live jams. Simple as that.

Until UNZ gets his priorities straight and codes a native clip player system you might look around for an abandonware VSTi called Phrazor - it can do Abletonish clip triggering (and a boatload more).

Peer machines can perform complex automations, here is a partial list of what you can do:
_ groove by track
_ multi tracks jump system
_ multi tempo (tempi)
For this, just add some sort of "virtual patterns".

It is a good idea and I would use such extension very often. But that are easy spoken words for a non-programmer like me. But may be just a conceptional idea: Could those in the sequencer aranged "patterns on demand" be send to a fixed one bar loop visible at the beginning of the sequencer? Ah, just a weird phantasy ...

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Zephod wrote:What could also help is a REALLY well thought out concept + mockup + featurelist.

That way implementation can be sortof a home-run.

So far there have been very few actually well thought out suggestions put out there on the internet for free-time programmers to implement - If you don't feel like learning how to program, maybe you should take a stab at designing?
With some of the xaml wizards around the buzz-scene the entire interface can be prototyped in advance.. and then handed over to 1 or more programmers to be hooked up to actual functionality.

Get the ball rolling... you never know where it might end..

I applaud you for making a mockup of your idea - that looks really great! I'd love to see something like this as well - livejumphack has it's limitations.

I JUST WET MY PANTS!!!!!!

Now that's a hell of an unexpected x-mas present, Oskari

Thx a dozen!!

Are the clips triggerable via midi?

Not yet, it's mouse-only at the moment.

Well, this is awesome and unexpected. Can't wait to give it a spin. Especially since I'm about to start working on a new live set for next year.

Oh this takes the cake. Thanks oskari, you just made my day!

wow, thanks a lot oskari!

Oskari for president!
Another sleep stealing jewel with a cool and simple design.
Dankeschön!

HAMMER!

Wow! Thank you! I just spent some time playing a lot of old tracks and smiling to myself . It took me a moment to understand the bar parameter, but once I did I was having loads of fun! What a great update! The world is ending and I'm staying home and using Buzz!

Is there a way to solo tracks through Live?


Also, off topic, but what is ISequence listed in the update?

sleepzzz wrote:Also, off topic, but what is ISequence listed in the update?

Internal data structure, oskari was telling the dev's we can do this stuff too now

Sick.

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