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Do you use a sampler?
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:22 am
by Grids
I am interested if anyone uses a sampler such as Short Circuit - inside buzz?
What is the advantage in using this over a tracker such as Unwieldy Tracker...?
Re: Do you use a sampler?
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:54 pm
by UNZ
there'd be lots of reasons i guess (better time streching etc) but there's one big disadanvantage: samples used are not stored in the .bmx / wavetable. so i try to avoid using vst samplers as much as possible.
Re: Do you use a sampler?
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:58 pm
by Evelon
I use both Shortcurcuit (2) and uTracker. And yes, samples in shortcircuit VSTi are stored within bmx/bmw. No worries. No need to reload them all (or presets/patch) everytime you open your saved Buzz project.
They are just different beasts. With utracker you have all the tasty tracker commands. With Shortcircuit you can play them via MIDI and you also have the tasty individual settings like better ADSR, envelopes, modulation/LFOs, internal effects, filters, tuning, fine-tuning, panning, etc etc. Everything (almost) in Shortcircuit can be controlled via MIDI.
I wish Buzz wavetable had/"borrowed" many of the Shortcircuit features, because frankly - it's one of the best samplers out there (and it's free, both #1 and #2). I can't wait to see what the coder Claes comes up with, with his upcoming DAW Bitwig.
Re: Do you use a sampler?
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:01 am
by UNZ
Evelon wrote:And yes, samples in shortcircuit VSTi are stored within bmx/bmw.
are you really sure ? what happens if you move the original samples on disk ?
Re: Do you use a sampler?
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:36 pm
by Evelon
UNZ wrote:Evelon wrote:And yes, samples in shortcircuit VSTi are stored within bmx/bmw.
are you really sure ? what happens if you move the original samples on disk ?
Totally sure.
They are saved within the Buzz project file. If you have alot of samples, the project file will become huge. Pros and cons. Mostly pros in this case.
Re: Do you use a sampler?
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:09 am
by elekt
You're probably wrong. Test it out, do what UNZ said.
Re: Do you use a sampler?
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:55 am
by Tiadiad
Alchemy, Iris, ElectraX (yes it can play samples), Battery 4, ScannerXT (OMG)... All great in their own way, sound killer too. ElectraX is a little moody, but does the job. Great thing about things like ScannerXT, Iris, and ElextraX is that you can resynthesize your samples, kinda like having them eat up the samples and poop out the good stuff. Highly reccomended.
Re: Do you use a sampler?
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:46 pm
by Evelon
elekt wrote:You're probably wrong. Test it out, do what UNZ said.
I did. Lol.
Whatever. It works for me, so I'm happy.
Now...you try it.
Re: Do you use a sampler?
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:19 pm
by elekt
I take it back, you're right about Shortcircuit 2 (v0.5.1). SC1 doesn't. First time I've ever seen this.
Re: Do you use a sampler?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:26 pm
by Evelon
elekt wrote:I take it back, you're right about Shortcircuit 2 (v0.5.1). SC1 doesn't. First time I've ever seen this.
All cool.
Yeah, I love that Buzz and Shortcircuit2 get along so well.